I first met Annie Murray in 2017 at a job interview (she was the interviewer, I the interviewee—thankfully I got the job), and in 2018 Annie asked me to join the SpokenWeb team as a research assistant. Four years later, we sit down—through our respective laptops—to chat about all things audio. As I soon found out, when it comes to thinking about sound, access, and vulnerability, Annie approaches listening as a joyful and potential-filled practice.